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A good, cheap, effective way to raid

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  • Jun 20, 2013 (51 months ago)
Many people in the game think that Dragons, P.E.K.K.A.S., Golems, etc. are the best troops to use in battle. And yes, to some extent, they are: they deal loads of damage, have high health, and intimidates people. HOWEVER, they are also extremely expensive (you can train two P.E.K.K.A.S/ dragons at level 1 with the same cost of my army), take a TON of room (ranging from 20-25), and take a long time to train (my army trains more than twice as fast as it takes to train a P.E.K.K.A). With these to consider, ARE they really the best troops to use?

In my opinion, they're some of the WORST units to train (except for at a really high level where they need those troops to win). I believe there are some way more efficient troops to use that will give you the same, or even more loot...

Let's start with the barbarians: the most under-rated troops in the game. Many people do not realize how great their stats are comparing to their price, their one housing space, and their incredibly fast training time. For me, they replace giants, sometimes wallies when they're being stupid and go after the wrong wall, and sometimes goblins. However, if you use barbarians wrong, they will be hugely defected and crushed by mortars before you can take out their defenses or whatever else your trying to have them take out. I like to put them in right after the mortar(s) hit and in about 10-15 in at a time. BEWARE though, barbarians attack anything, so try to have your archers attack all the barracks/ army camps/ spell factories/ etc so your barbs can focus on the important stuff.

Let's compare these barbarians to giants: giants are slow, take a housing space of 5, and do about the same damage as barbarians. Giants only unique and great asset in my opinion is their incredible health. Mortars can't do really do anything to them, but wizard towers, cannons, archer towers, and hidden teslas are what you need to look out for. I think that giants are good, but not good enough to use them in raids because the tier one troops can be more effective if you use them right.

Next troop is archers: the most commonly used troop almost everywhere you go and the most commonly donated troop BY FAR. However, you have to keep in mind their health. One level 5 mortar can destroy level 5 archers in one shot. Now that shot could have just gotten one archer- or could of gotten 20 of them. But they are vital to your attack. Many times your archers can destroy an army camp or barracks or whatever without being touched, so that way your barbs or whatever you use won't have to deal with it. In addition, archers add to the diversity of your attack. For instance, if your destroying a defense such as a cannon, your barbs can be up front taking the damage while attacking it, while your archers can still attack it while the mortars or wizard towers aren't attacking it. Archers can't do much on their own, but they can be a crucial asset to your attack if you use them right with other front-of-the-line troops such as barbarians.

The next troop is often hated by people and aren't used too often: goblins. Personally, these troops are some of my favorite ones. They can take out collectors in an instant or storage's in seconds. One goblin can't do anything on his own, but many of them are great. You can't function well with all goblins or mostly goblins because no defenses can be taken down, but they are incredible with other troops. Their unique skill is their ability to target resources with double attack. At level 5, goblins can attack at I believe 52 damage a second. Multiply that by two and it's 104! That's incredible for a tier one troop. Goblins do take the longest for a tier one troop, but they are also the cheapest if all of the troops are maxed (100 elixir per goblin). Goblins are GREAT in attack, but use them wisely

The last troop I'm going to talk about is wall breakers- or what I like to call them: the dumbest troops in the game. Wallies can screw up your attack by going after the wrong wall, but they are VITAL to raids. If you try to destroy walls with barbs or goblins, the mortar will be able to hit while they're all compacted, and also many times your barbarians will go after the wrong, useless buildings like barracks or army camps. They can frustrate you and ruin your attack, but you still have to use them, but don't overuse them because they are quite expensive (3,000 elixir for one at level 5). I tend to use 6, but don't feel like you have to use them all or even any for that matter. Sometimes I use all six, sometimes I use three, and sometimes I use none. Use them WISELY.

I've talked about the four troops that I like to raid with in detail (barbarians, archers, goblins, and wall breakers). Now I'm going to talk about how to raid with them. First things first are the different types of raids I do. I do 2 DIFFERENT raids, depending on where the resources are on my opponent and how easy it is to get.

The first strategy is just going after collectors. People protect the storage's in the middle and usually leave their collectors out, not protected by walls and little defense. And for the people who don't check their bases too often, you could get anywhere from 100k each to 250k each (my maximum amount is around 270k each from this strategy. With this, you can get all the resources using about half your army and usually can get 50% for the win if you care about trophies. This strategy is the easiest to get the resources without using all your troops, so it's my favorite type of raid. HOWEVER, it's not too often you find these bases. Many times you have to use my other strategy

My second strategy is where you go after the storage's. My army consisting of barbs, archers, gobs, and wallies isn't necessarily the best strategy to get the heavily defended storage's, but it does the job. Be CAREFUL of going after too good of a base because this army will get cut immediately with little resources gained. For this strategy, I ALWAYS use the full 30 seconds to decide IF I'm going to raid this person, WHERE I'm going to raid, and HOW I'm going to raid. Usually I will first use one barb to go after builder's huts if they're out in the corner because it helps with 50% and the achievement "Union Buster". Next, I will usually spam archers on the side I'm going to raid on, unless you can put one archer on a building without it getting hit (if you can do this, do it). It takes time but be patient. Those archers will help you later. Next, I usually use barbs to get the rest of the stuff outside, and when that's done, I put as many wallies as I need to destroy the first wall (usually one). Make sure that there is enough barbs as distraction to get your wallies in safe. Next i use about half my barbs to get their outer defenses, and archers to get the defenses too. NOTE: if there's just one defense that you want to get rid of that's not where your main raid is, use about 8 archers to get it and don't use wallies to break it- save the wallies. After most of their outer stuff covered by walls is gone, i usually send more distraction to get in my other wallies to destroy the second line of walls (wallies WILL go after an unintended wall if its closer and has something in it- try to use archers to get that building out so your wallies will not be wasted. Next, send some more barbs in, and then most of your goblins. Save some for later. Your next putting in of troops must be chosen by you because every place is different and you must decide what to do from here. USE YOUR INSTINCTS!

Finally, I would like to tell you my army. I have all level six army camps so I can house 200 spaces. I use 58 barbarians, 75 archers, 55 goblins, and 6 wallies. Feel free to modify this army to use to your best fit. NOTE: I am a level 73 and this army works PERFECT for me, and I have been using it for over a month. And just in case your wondering: I have level 6 barbs (max), getting level 6 archers now (max), and level 5 goblins and wallies (max). It helps to have max troops, but I've done it without max level troops and it still works. My advice if you have level 4 troops now is research barbs first because they're the cheapest, then archers, then goblins, then wallies (all to level 5). Lastly, DO NOT be so paranoid of someone raiding your village while you have a lot of elixir/ gold that you stay up til 2 in the morning on Easter like I did. The maximum someone can take from you is about 200k, and you can easily get that amount in two raids.

If you're interested in seeing my base, look at my profile and check out my bases. Currently I am using "the death trap", but I am looking forward to remodeling my base to try out my other setups. My favorite one now is "Saving for level 6 archers". Even though I already am getting level 6 archers, it still seems like a great setup. And if you are REALLY curious to see my base: Search up the clan "APOCALYPSE3" and find 'ross is da boss' (that's me). And if your good enough (level 5 archers) and looking for a great, chill clan that LOVES to donate, feel free to join!

Thanks for reading and hope it helps!

- ross is da boss

    Posted 20 months ago

    ManKindz

    lvl 1: Loincloth
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    Posted 37 months ago

    IITryHardII

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    40
    here
    20/08/14
    This person is town hall 10 yet still has 200 army capacity?
    Posted 42 months ago

    epikness

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    61
    here
    10/04/14
    spelldead: honestly getyour troops higher lvl.
    And for others u cant "F***" peoples bases with lv 2 troops bonzo dude
    Posted 43 months ago

    ElderMage

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    here
    08/03/14
    Hey ElderMage here,
    Nice guide. I'd like to point out some things that might help others win more raids and loot. I use 200 lv5 archies and I attack all the buildings that are out of reach. After 20 seconds or so, I target any and all buildings that are outside of the walls and will 85% of the time get 50% and big loot. I use this strat when farming and it works all the way up to 2200 trophies. Anything beyond Crystal 2 is dem high leveled troops you mentioned up there :)
    Posted 43 months ago

    not available

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    5
    here
    23/02/14
    Thx this was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted 43 months ago

    not available

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    none yet
    15/02/14
    Thx this really helped I gained over 200,000 gold and elixir from one raid!!!!!!!
    Posted 45 months ago

    not available

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    none yet
    12/01/14
    archers overrated. splash damage takes them out so easily. barbs r much better
    Posted 45 months ago

    not available

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    none yet
    11/01/14
    I use 101 barbs and 1 wizard some how everything gets fucked up
    Posted 45 months ago

    not available

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    1
    02/01/14
    I made it to 1000 trophies with a level 5 town hall
    I fuck peoples bases with 10 lv 2 giant and 50 barbarians
    this all because of your guide
    Posted 45 months ago

    SpellDead

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    1
    here
    29/12/13
    What i am using
    Troops capacity 115
    Archers lvl3 : 37
    Goblins lvl2 :20
    Giant lvl2 : 10
    Wall breakers lvl2: 4
    Lighting spell lvl2
    But I lost so many raid
    What should i change and how would i raid?
    Plese help me

    Posted 47 months ago

    ihack4ppl3u

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    22
    here
    09/11/13
    AH my lvl 7 hall is going to lvl 8 and I am gonna use this strategy thanks!
    Posted 48 months ago

    N4th4n357

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    7
    28/09/13
    Thank you Ross
    Posted 49 months ago

    KevinD33

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    2
    07/09/13
    Ok thanks man! :)
    Posted 49 months ago

    ahmadd98

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    30
    04/09/13
    KevinD33 if u would like to take my advise then yes, but make sure u upgraded all necessary troops first, like arch and barbs and giants, probably the troops u use should be upgraded first, then up the dark troops. i upgraded my minions after i upgraded arch healer barbs and giants as well.
    Posted 49 months ago

    KevinD33

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    2
    27/08/13
    Thanks a lot Ross, great guide! I typically dont use giants, or barbs, I go with pekka, 2 dragons, 10-15 level 5 wizards, and the rest archers. I use that for "extreme" loot, or trophy hunting. For my usual farming, I use archers/ minions and I do pretty well. I'm in silver 1 when I'm farming, that's how I survive attacking like that. Well, Thanks again!
    PS: should I bother upgrading my dark troops? Minions specifically
    Posted 50 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    11/08/13
    Thanks AwesomeToto! Means a lot! Hope you continue to succeed through clash!
    Posted 50 months ago

    AwesomeToto

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    47
    10/08/13
    Love your guides! I'm new too Town hall 8 and this guide helped me get over 3,000,000 gold and 2,000,000 elixer in one week :) Your farming guide helped me get too Town Hall 8.None of this could of happend without this guide,thank you!

    Posted 50 months ago

    Doudsy

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    15
    here
    30/07/13
    Thanks that's a real help
    Posted 50 months ago

    vanhoenackere99

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    105
    here
    29/07/13
    Thank You!!!!!

    Posted 50 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    25/07/13
    no problem! and no i don't mean to use barbs to break the inner walls. Sorry for that confusion. Just make sure you don't use all those 10 wall breakers unless you need them because they do cost quite a bit!
    Posted 50 months ago

    unknowntdawg

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    17
    24/07/13
    I completely agree with u man but are u saying i should use barbs to try to break the more inner walls? Im a level 50 Town Hall seven with level 4 barbs, archers and goblins. I pretty much use the same thing u use except i use 10 wall breakers and like 5 giants as distractions. i use much more archers and less goblins as they die fast. thx for ur help :)
    Posted 50 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    23/07/13
    haha small world britman2! and Sean147: i think that's a pretty darn good army. And it is fine to spend that extra elixir on giants to help your raid. For only 4 giants, that'll cost only 12,000 at level 6. I also have been using about 4 or 5 giants now that I am trophy hunting (for like the first time in ages). Now keep in mind, you don't HAVE to use them. Just do it if you're doing an all out attack. The minions you use seems like a good idea! And no problem for the long comment! I love to hear my followers comment and I love to respond!
    Posted 50 months ago

    Sean147

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    11
    here
    21/07/13
    I hav the same attack style as u, however i do use 4 giants as they help take some splash off my barbs (yes i know know its spelt elixir, ive spelt it elixar the whole time though). My Camps max is 180 and this is my Army: 4 Giants, 4 WB (sometimes 8), 20 Barbs, 5 minions (i sometimes use them, and only after the air defense is destroyed because they can help with King and CC troops or just getting 50%), the rest of the room is whatever comes from 2 barracks on archers and the other 2 on gobs also after many archer donations so the amount can be quite evenly spread. Check out my only uploaded base, and if u like it plz rate and tell me what u think! :) Sry 4 the long comment :)
    Posted 50 months ago

    Britman 2

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    155
    here
    21/07/13
    my name is also ross and i used to think i was the boss but i clearly am not for it is YOU
    Posted 51 months ago

    Staffsgtcarter

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    none yet
    16/07/13
    Thx
    For
    The
    Info
    Posted 51 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    14/07/13
    your welcome RedNebulosity! and ammoman.. unless you're REALLY high up there i would advise you to cheapen up your army! Your lucky to even get a profit from that army!
    Posted 51 months ago

    Injustice god among

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    none yet
    13/07/13
    Good guide
    I attack with 19 giants 40 archers and about 3 dragons
    Posted 51 months ago

    RedNebulosity

    lvl 1: Loincloth
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    here
    13/07/13
    I will definitely use this, thanks. I've read some of your other Guides, and they have helped me so much, thank you.
    Posted 51 months ago

    Henry$$$$

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    4
    here
    13/07/13
    WAY TOO EXPENSIVE STRATEGY!!!!
    Posted 51 months ago

    ammoman

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    1
    12/07/13
    Oh yah i also use 5 lvl 5 rage spells and everything else is lvl 5 as well
    Posted 51 months ago

    ammoman

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    1
    12/07/13
    I roll with 1 Golem 3 healers and the rest wizards. And this is how i drop... Drop Golem and he takes all the dmg then drop healers they heal him and stay on him the whole time. then drop the wizards are free to clean the map while they are not the focus of the major dmg. I try to knock out the AA first because of the healers. I always win and never loose this way.
    Posted 51 months ago

    pancho284

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,037
    here
    12/07/13
    ill try the mushroom i now TH8
    Posted 51 months ago

    pancho284

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,037
    here
    12/07/13
    ill sure look at ur bases! thx for this awesome guide :)
    Posted 51 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    11/07/13
    i like your farming strategy pieter, but your trophy attacks seems VERY expensive. About 110k each! Plus, that would take at least 45 minutes for your units and almost 3 hours for your spell! I get that it's for trophy hunting, but still: that is really expensive! I would suggest to use less wizards and only use one rage spell IF it's needed. Maybe keep 2 rage spells and 2 lightning spells in your spell factory, and take out a mortar or wizard tower or another defense , then use a rage spell. Keep in mind, spells ARE EXPENSIVE. only use them if you have to. Hope this helped you pieter and good luck in farming/ trophy hunting
    Posted 51 months ago

    PieterTerAar

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    26
    11/07/13
    How I attack

    TROPIES 2100 :
    10 wallbreakers, 14 giants, 10 wizards, 40 Barbarian, 40 archers.
    3 Rage spel (mainly for the wizard, they are so strong then!) and 1 lighting spell to take care of the archers in the clan castle.
    Record: 2305 (level 77)

    Farming 1350-1550:
    5 Wallbreakers, 6 Giants (for distraction), 40 Goblins, 80 barbarian, 80 Archers.
    I use no spells because they are way to expensive.

    Check out mine acount for some good TH lvl 9 bases.
    ps: maby isn't my English very good because i come from the netherlands and i am 13 years old

    Posted 51 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    10/07/13
    your welcome blk oblivion! I'm so happy it's helping you! And thanks Thehungryturkey too! With the heroes, I think you should only use them when needed (usually on an all out raid) because they do take an hour to regenerate. Your barbarian king will usually take all of the hits from defenses as it is in the front line. Therefore, all archers will be safe with it from the mortars and wizard towers because the mortars will focus on the king. As for the Archer Queen (if you have one), it usually will never be damaged until the front line of the attack (barbarians, giants, goblins, etc.) dies. Usually once the first line of attack is dead, there's not much more you can get unless your close to get 50% or 100% or getting an important storage at that time. Otherwise, if you've got all the money and you can't get another star, I would suggest ending the battle before they hit your queen, that way you can use her for the next battle. Apart from this, sometimes I use my heroes (usually queen) to get something on the outside (usually a collector that has something in it still that you can't get because all your other units are dead. Keep in mind, your queen will be hurt, but usually for only about 20 minutes (as long as it takes to retrain your army). However, the queen does have low health, so sometimes I use my king to distract their defenses if I know that the queen can't take whatever I want it to attack. If you can, try to keep your heroes only a third damage that way it can be used for your next attack (unless it can get a lot more money). Heroes can't do much on defenses, but they do help obviously. Usually when I attack heroes, I isolate them from other defenses and kill the queen/ king. I've found out that kings take about 10-15 level 6 barbarians to kill, and about 10-15 level 6 barbarians to kill. Finally, don't be so afraid to use your heroes in battle that they won't be healed for someone attacking you. Heroes ARE BETTER in attack then defense, but obviously they do help in defense.

    Hope this helps you Thehungryturkey and anyone else wanting to know!

    Posted 51 months ago

    Blk Oblivion

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    13
    10/07/13
    after iv read this a 2 weeks, iv been more successful in raids. thanks bro for the tips. im actually raiding more and getting a better profit then i usually do when i used my other tactics that cost me more.

    sincerely,
    Oblivion
    Posted 51 months ago

    Thehungryturkey

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    30
    09/07/13
    Overall, a good guide, only a few things missed. 1. What about heroes
    Posted 51 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    09/07/13
    good idea commander. The only thing is I think there's almost too much diversity. 20 archers or barbarians can't do much with that small amount of them, and you may as well not even use goblins if you're only gonna use 12 of them. Also, your army seems quite expensive. I would advise taking out the dragon since you already have some high up troops and add some archers/barbs/goblins to it. That is just my opinion, I think it would be better profit using lower troops, but if you can get good profits, then GREAT! Try to find the best army considering not only effectiveness and cost, but also TIME.
    Posted 51 months ago

    Commander X

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    16
    09/07/13
    I always use 4 wallbreakers, 12 goblins, 20 barbarians, 20 archers, 4 wizards, 8 minions, 3 hogriders,
    1 dragon and lots of giants (sometimes I use 3 or 4 balloons too)!
    Posted 51 months ago

    Death Leppard

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    238
    here
    08/07/13
    I am ross's friend in real life and clan mate in clash. Join apocalypse3 it is a great clan. If u dont ur missing out
    Posted 51 months ago

    ross is da boss

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    642
    08/07/13
    Thank you all for your comments!
    Posted 51 months ago

    Fadel

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    5
    05/07/13
    Ross is da boss thx for posting this up really helped me lots thx man!
    Posted 51 months ago

    Chief Olaf

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    1
    05/07/13
    You have my respect, because you are totally right. I use a similar approach just training a boat-load of barbarians and doing frequent low cost raids. But now, at a higher trophy count (1500 ) I have to use the more expensive troops to achieve a high profit In both resources and trophies. Nice to see someone who shares the same views as me.
    Posted 51 months ago

    buttzland2

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    16
    04/07/13
    i ment good
    Posted 51 months ago

    buttzland2

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    16
    04/07/13
    goof
    Posted 51 months ago

    Kelevra

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    51
    01/07/13
    First off, good guide. You seem to surround the general idea of a good raiding build. Understand first that the players at the high lvl trophies use pekkas and dragons because they deal high damage and have high health. You need them to get the 50% or break into the inner workings of the village. Barbs and archer can be used to help but they become targets for high lvl mortars and wizards like you said. They aren't necessarily after the resources. Second wallies (I myself like to call them breakers, wallies would remind me of the movie and that just doesn't go well) are not stupid. They do their job, if they don't go where you want that is a user error and not them. You can easily tell what they will go after so do your best to get those areas out of the way first. I don't think taking out a building enclosed behind walls will stop a breaker from going there.
    Tier one troops do tend to be the best but health is lower then just about everything else so like we both agree, easy targets for mortars and wizards. In fact I would say at the same lvl a wizard posses more of a threat to tier one troops because their attack is directed and wont miss like a mortar will if the target moves, they also attack a little quicker then mortars. It should also be common knowledge to attack collectors as they are the easy targets. Sadly those targets are far and few between, but a nice treat when you find them. The safer bet would be to have an army that could punch into the center of a village and get the storage's. I have actually done this before with an army composed of 8 giants, 8 breakers, and 134 goblins (at the time my goblins were lvl 3 also). Goblins are cheap when maxed and great for spamming, the giants and breakers allow them to get deep into a village and hit the storage's while the giants take the brute of the attack and distract and kill the defenses. Needless to say this build combined with another army build makes me great profit. I would say adding giants to your build may help with taking out defenses and allow other troops to mop up the other buildings and possibly make more. The best part about a giant is not their health, its the fact that they target defenses.
    A side note I would upgrade archers before barbs. My reason being, the upgrades for barbs are cheaper than the archers which is nice. However when you hit lvl 6, the archer upgrade cost 7.5mil while the barb upgrade cost only 4.5mil. I think the archer is one of the most expensive ones so getting it out of the way early will help you in the long run as it may not always be as easy to get the 7.5mil as it will be to get the 4.5mil.

    Last point, I think you underestimate what people use in their armies to attack. I used to get slammed all the time by tier 1 troops. People don't neglect them and they actually are used a great deal by everyone. Anyways attacking is more about luck then anything. As long as you know how to use your army then the luck with be in your favor. Good example, it was luck that I came across a target with 480k gold and 400k elixir to take(was inactive and both storages and collectors were full). It was knowing how to use my mainly goblin army to break in to the center of the village and take out all of the mines and collectors. Then take out 2/3 lvl 11 gold storages and an elixir storage. Letting me walk away with quiet the profit.