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  • Jun 10, 2014 (42 months ago)
Note: many more details can easily be found in other guides. Many echo what i have stated here.

Introduction

If you are reading this then you are looking for some insights on strategies for Clash of Clans. My thoughts on what to do may be unconventional, but they are working well for me. Are they right? Depends what your goal is. The goal I am trying to convey is to simply rise as fast as you can.

First off, you must accept a few truths. You must accept that you are in for a long run. You can expect to dedicate 6 months to a year before seeing the top. This guide will help minimize that time. Secondly, accept the fact that you will lose. This guide is not a trophy guide. It is to accelerate your progress through the game; to point you in the right directions and help you avoid being mired down. Thirdly, this is not a detailed attack and/or defense guide. Building your own town and developing our own attack plans is what makes this game fun. I hope to eliminate some of the drudgery of the waiting game by helping you progress through the upgrades efficiently. I will touch upon some attack and defense strategies and the reasons behind them, but I will not tell you what buildings to place where or exactly what troops to deploy for every attack; there are many guides that cover those things. Another thing, do not spend gems. Use them only to buy your first two builders, they will be invaluable later. Finally, don't bother with the goblin campaign. Use it to dump unwanted troops. If your troops get strong enough go ahead and get the first achievement for the additional gems.


The strategy behind this guide is resource collection and base maintenance.
Trophies are for the most part useless. This guide will not concentrate on gaining trophies. Rather using trophy levels as a guideline of progress. The guide is based only upon my experience up through Town Hall level 5 and will concentrate mainly from the beginning of that Town Hall level through the end. It will not address Clan Wars. That is a completely different animal.

I will harp over and over about how this guide is to raise your town as quick as possible. Do not confuse this with raising your Town Hall as quickly as possible. My school of thought is to max up your town before upgrading your TH to the next level.

So let's get started.

Types of players

There are primarily 4 types of players.
Trophy Hunters
Ones looking for easy kills and ones looking for quality wins
Resource Farmers
Ones looking to be left alone gathering their own resources, oblivious to what their army is for and those who let others do the gathering for them.

I want to concentrate on the latter as I view it as the quickest way to advance.


So you want to go to battle? You must ask yourself why.
Something to do, Win trophies, or get resources. Sure you can choose all three but your primary reason should be to get resources.

A lesson about Gold Mines and Elixer Extractors

The biggest regret I have is that I have level 8-9 GMs and EEs.
As I will explain later, having too high of a level for these is not a good thing for you.
They are an open invitation written in gold-and-elixir-raised lettering, asking people to attack you.
I will reiterate this theme time and time again. You want to raise your town as quick as possible. If you use your resource collectors to do this you will spend about 2 months just getting through TH 5. This can be shortened to about 2-3 weeks by following this guide.
Level 6 collectors are all that anyone needs. You could probably get away with level 5, however, the fill up time is a bit short at 10 hours. Level 6 offers a little bit of wiggle room at about 15.5 hours to fill up.
So, what are you loosing by not upgrading to level 10? About 1200 per hour per collector. At 5 collectors, that is 6000 per hour - 144,000 a day. Sounds like a lot, but as you will see, it is not.

Let's define my criteria for a Good Base. First it should protect your resources, second it should be able to defend everything else, and thirdly it should be uninviting for attack. At lower levels it will not be able to do the first two very well but it can achieve the third goal. By having low level collectors people will be less inclined to attack since the ROI (return on investment) won't be worthwhile. Unfortunately, your base will more than likely get completely destroyed daily. We are going to try and minimize the losses. You will see how this works out when I talk about attack strategies a little later.

Getting bigger faster

Since this game is about resource spending, and I established that you shouldn't depend on your own resource collection, which leaves getting resources from others. In order to do this you need armies. Large armies. What you want to do is to hit quick and often. You are going to look for easily accessible resources and lots of them. This is where the collectors come into play. So the first thing you will want to consider upgrading are your barracks. You will want to get to the level of giants as soon as possible. You will then want to put together an army of 3-5 giants, 3-5 wall breakers, about 15-20 goblins, and the rest archers and barbarians. You then want to go to battle. It should take about 20 minutes between each battle. Depending on how good you are, what your average opposition is like, and the amount of the resource you need to do your next upgrade, will dictate how much time you need to dedicate per attack session. Naturally, your strength depends on army size and army upgrades so that should be your next priority for upgrades. Use those cost to determine how much time you need to spend attacking.
Elixer will also need to factor in the cost of the army and spells you use during the battle. So if it take 15k elixir to fill your army you should look to cover that cost and then some during each attack.

How to attack

Each attack will be fairly much the same since you will be attacking the same type of base over and over again. You will become very intimate with the 'NEXT' button as only about 10% of the bases meet the criteria.

You will first see how much available resources are available. Should be at least 30k each. If less than that, press 'NEXT'. Now that you found a base with resources, you need to determine where they are. Hopefully in level 10 collectors outside the walls. Look at the collectors, pumps should show full and mines should have a nice little pile of gold next to them. The storage units hopefully are empty.
If so, start deploying archers, barbs and goblins along the length of the row(s) collectors are located, just outside of the reach of the weapons. You do not want to deploy them all from one area since mortars, wizard towers and traps will reduce the numbers of your forces very quickly. Deploying across a wide area should make short work of the collectors and give you lots of loot.
I mentioned getting Giants and wall breakers. If your pillage was successful you may find you still have a sizable group of barbs and archers, now would be a good time to go for a star or two, (or three). Deploy the wall breakers, bust a hole open, let the mob funnel through and let the giants go free. They will now raise the town and hopefully get you a few trophies or empty the storage units.

Remember this isn't about trophies, but if you get them, all the better.

Now here is where having low level collectors come in handy. If you are not seeing level 8+ collectors you might as well move on, since you will not get much in the way of loot from them. Others will see this in your base and move on as well saving you trophies and loot.

Rebuild your army, (you can actually start this before the attack to reduce the waiting time) and repeat. Will every attack be a success? No. but you can afford to be real picky. Each time your press next only cost about 100 gold. The failures will be forgotten about the first time you get 100k + from a TH 7 using this system.

I mentioned that this isn't about trophies, but if you stumble across the following two conditions make sure to exploit them. 1) A lone Town Hall. People will place a town hall out just to be attacked and get a shield, and/or intentionally drop their trophy rating. (attacks are assigned upon trophy count so TH8s and TH4 can easily face off together). 2) Sometimes you can tell that your raid will get you close to 50% and you see buildings stuck into the corners of the map, make sure to deploy a troop or two in each of those corners to mop up those building, pushing you over the 50%. These are usually the first troops I deploy.
Trophies do matter though to some extent. Get too high you will get wiped out on your attacks almost immediately, get to low, your selection of battles will be with towns with 1-5k in resources. I figure about 200 trophies per your town hall level is a good guide. So for a TH 5 you should be sitting around 1000 trophies +/- 100

Remember that 144,000 a day in lost resources because you didn't upgrade, well you just made that back and then some in the matter of an hour or two (or if you are lucky in 5 minutes).


Improve the armies

As soon as you get enough resources to upgrade a camp, a barracks or to do a little research, spend it. You want to keep as close to a 0 balance as possible when you are done with your session. The lower the amount you have lying around, the less likely someone will spend Elixer to attack you.

I mentioned that one of the key things is to make your town undesirable. Low resources are one way, the other is good defenses. After your armies are taken care of, you will want to upgrade your cannons and towers. Your Mortar should also be up there on that list as well. Your Wizard tower, is strong but very expensive, decide on when that works for you to upgrade. Your air defense is pretty useless right now since most people are not attacking with air units, and if they do, Your AD will have a hard time defeating them as it sits right now (even after an upgrade) I would suggest leaving this building for the last.
By now you should have 3 builders. You should have 1 in reserve at all times and use him to upgrade walls. Upgrade them evenly. Get all to level 2 before moving to level 3, all to level 3 before moving to level 4. By End of TH 5 you should easily have gotten all walls to their gold max. Storages should also be at level 9 this will help with big ticket items. I had one level 9 and one level 8 gold storage and maxed out on my pilfering when I ran across a 300k loot village (I was saving 750k G to upgrade to TH 6. So always keep one step ahead on your storage.


Your Shield

It is a crutch, not a friend, don't feel bad ditching it early.
Use your shield when you have a life to live or you need sleep. Like I said you will lose. Some TH 7 will come by and wipe you out and take about 30k from you. That is OK. You will get a 16 hour shield. Use it to finish your sleep then go to work/school. The shield will hopefully be there when you get back. If it is and you have time left on it, ditch the shield and make some money. Remember what you make on attacks is far more than what your collectors will get you (even if they are level 10). Run 3-4 attacks make 100k and upgrade something. Main thing to remember is to try and leave yourself close to 0 resources available when you sign off. Dump it into walls, clear obstacles. Build balloons that are going to get queued. Delete them later.

Clans.

Try to join a decent clan, it doesn't have to be big, just active. Hopefully there will be players farther along than you. They will give you good troops. Find one where the players are in your time zone so you can get active replenishments. As you increase your village you will be able to shower lower levels with good troops as well. If there isn't much activity, find another clan. It makes no sense only getting 1 set of reinforcements 8 hours after you need them.


In Sumarry

Don't rush your town hall. Rush your entire base.
Don't upgrade collectors past level 6.
First upgrades should be to your offensive units.
Try and keep a 0 balance when offline.
Don't worry too much about trophies, they will come in time.
Let others spend the time and Money building mines and extractors for you.
    Posted 23 months ago

    gemv3app

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    Posted 26 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    Wow what a difference a year makes.

    I am not trying to be a necromancer and raise a dead thread. But rather Update my P.O.V.

     

    I was a lowly th6 way back then :). So wet behind the ears.

     

    I was thinking as a th 6 I was pretty far along (past the half way point LOL).Now I am an advanced TH9 and know that I am now approaching the halfway point. (I think Max th8 might be the halfway point if you don't count level 10+ walls)

     

    However, I do hold to what my intent was. I created a second account (now a maxed TH8) and specifically kept the collectors low until I was pushing Purple walls at TH7. Then I upgraded them out of boredom.

     

    Did it make a difference? not sure. But I think since I was concentrating on defense and troop upgrades, and not the collectors, I was able to maximize my builders.

     

    I look back at this post and realize how much of the flack I got was from advanced TH8's and up. I would agree with them now if I had written this for a TH 8 or up but I was writing it for a TH 4-6.

     

    From TH8 I would say having maxed collectors is highly desireabe, however I did see a advanced TH 9 with max defenses and a lvl 10 AQ and BK and a lot of level 9 walls. Low and behold only mid level collectors.

    I was elixir broke and was looking for a easy BAM, and even though the collectors were fairly full I Hit "next" because there just was't alot in them.

     

    Take it all for what it's worth and Clash On!.

     

     

     

    Posted 35 months ago

    PRODlGY

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    Wow, the fight on this thread was hilarious!
    Posted 39 months ago

    BurningFlare

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    Pretty good ,but upgrading e collectors and g mines help.
    Posted 41 months ago

    Awesomeness is born

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    Upgrade defenses b4 troops or barracks
    Posted 41 months ago

    Awesomeness is born

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    Also upgrading collectors help u
    Posted 41 months ago

    Awesomeness is born

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    Any tips on pushing to gold
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Ok as you wish
    Posted 41 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    no thanks, I am happy where I am.
    Lets try and keep discussion on the pros and cons of the guide.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    cmon guys say sth
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Hey flipmstr wanna join our clan named the star 3
    Posted 41 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    @~[Steven 82]~ Your points about TH7 may be true, I can't say at this point first hand, hopefully will in two weeks. As I understand it it, more people are at TH 7 than any other TH and with so many new things it could be considered the real start of the game and TH6 the end of the intro. Using that school of thought you can say this guide could be about getting you through the "intro" as fast as possible and start tH7 strong.

    I do admit it is nice yanking 5k out of a collector every couple of hours, but it is such a small amount compared to the raiding that the extra 1-2 k really doesn't help me in a noticeable way.

    I can see I will be having free builders soon while I start to work on my walls in earnest, might keep them somewhat busy on collectors in prep for TH 7
    Posted 41 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    @ Legolas I Very good points and are valid for the first type of player I defined and especially for higher ranked players. But I still must contend raiding is a much higher resource generator than even level 20 collectors - at least down around TH 6. and the guide is about not trophy hunting but rather maxing out your base quickly.

    Posted 41 months ago

    Legolas I

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    I am a TH9 in Masters, so I know what I am talking about.

    Upgrading collectors is extremely valuable IF:
    a) You are trophy hunting (resources are less at high levels)
    b) You don't like/don't have time for raiding
    c) You check your account more than three times a day

    By trophy pushing into at least Gold I and putting your TH outside your base, you get many free shields from trophy hunters who do not attack your base, only your exposed TH.

    Trophy pushing is actually the safest way to keep your resources safe. I was at Crystal II but pushed to Masters , and I lose way fewer resources and gain more trophies.

    TH sniping is a great method of raiding as it gives you a lot of resources relative to your army cost at high levels plus it keeps your resources safe by gaining lots of trophies.

    HOWEVER there was an extremely useful point in this guide that most of you overlooked. It was mentioned that you want to keep your resource count at zero. By doing this, you keep all resources safe, plus you actually increase your overall base by upgrading the cheapest things first. I always upgrade the cheapest things, and as a bonus they usually have the lowest build time.

    Walls are extremely useful as a defense and as a deterrent. High level walls are one of the most effective deterrent strategies, as they ward off most attackers and spend gold so that it is not stolen. You have to upgrade walls if you want to make it anywhere in Clash.

    Upgrading collectors is good for some strategies, like the one flipmstr2 is using, but for others it isn't. No strategy can be considered the best, it is a matter of opinion.

    Stop hating on this guide. Thank yoy @flipmstr2 for creating this, you raised some valid points.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    I dont get the question plz say it more clearly
    Posted 41 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    I don't know of a limit, other may though. I t may be better to ask that in the forum
    Posted 41 months ago

    Khaleesi1

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    How long does one have to use the troops donated by clan members?
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Great thanks alot buddy
    Posted 41 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    Well I am willing to let bygones be bygones.. Trust me I never lost any sleep over it.

    I do want to take this opportunity to clarify 1 thing. The zero balance thing never conveyed by me very well.

    I am currently sitting on a ton of resources. Unfortunately it is as zero as I can go. Yes I am geting hit for 100k but that is the nature of the game. I will have to use the shield as a crutch to get me through some build times. Yes I could move TH outside, but I want to test my new set up so.....

    One thing I have quickly come to discover, the game is diverse enough to allow a lot of different styles of play, and a lot of those can be successful. The game is forgiving, you are always going to move forward.

    To those that came to my defense I thank you. For those who got value from this guide, I hope it does you well. For those that disagree with my points, I appreciate the feedback and critiques. Unfortunately, there are those that did nothing to further open dialogue, and to that i had to simply dismiss.

    Sure buddies :)
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    yup i had a pretty big argument with him, and well you didnt offend me and im sorry guys that my friend is such a jerk
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    Ok well I'm sorry for being mean to your account then, I just felt bad for flipmstr2.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    k you can not believe it but i left my iPad in his house and he had my password and americans do not use the word rubbish only british do (my friend is british). and well if you dont believe this, it wont make a difference since i know the truth. and remember the part i said that i admitted this was a good guide, it was my friend who wrote sarcasm and now ive changed my password for this website so he cannot access it again
    Posted 41 months ago

    Redemption

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    @MehranJ So your saying your friend had your account for 15 days and continuously trashed this guide over and over and you never noticed it until now? Not buying it...
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    i am very very sorry about my very impolite comments (it was my friend), i do not agree with what he said except the loot around 0 and the low collectors, im very sorry.

    buddies?
    Posted 41 months ago

    DzH

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    I love it helps me a lot knowing I don't have to rush my hall
    Posted 41 months ago

    cakehoney

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    flipmstr2, this is a great guide you put a lot of thoughts and effort in. It is very helpful and gives good points to think of when starting to play coc. Everyone should be capable to make his/ her own thoughts and come to own conclusions when playing - so if they e.g. want to upgrade their collectors more than lvl 6, they will do so. That doesn't make your guide unworthy at all. I really really enjoyed reading it and I absolutely loved the structured and self-critical way you wrote it. Don't let all the hypercritical and sometimes rude comments bother you. You did a great job. THANKS!
    Posted 41 months ago

    RoyHuhMeah

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    this is a very good guide. critical pointers are mentioned. thank you
    Posted 41 months ago

    Ragnor the Dude

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    I have to agree flipmstr2 about the collectors. When I am "Next"ing through the possibilities, I always do a double-take on lvl 10-11 collectors/Pumps/Extractors/Mines/Whatever....
    High Level Recourses are such a small percent of my budget it's silly....
    Empty your resources before bed, (nice to have a builder handy and have them staggered so one is finishing every day!!

    Here's what you do..Build an awesome, expensive army before you go to bed. Que up Wall-breakers until your elixer is gone. (Cancel them in the morning)

    Morning comes, go hunting, be patient, find some moron with easy to get resources. (Probably full, high level mines and pumps) and start your day...
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    Why you keep wasting your time on this comment section for this guide baffles me. Nobody cares what you think anymore. Stop posting crap thats allegedly supposed to make you look superior to flipmstr2. Leave the comments for people who actually need it, like people who actually might want to ask flipmstr2 questions about his guide so they can understand it better and become more successful in Clash of Clans. And don't give me that crap, "Noobs can't benefit from a bad guide like this." It's not a bad guide. If you would look past the collector things he said, you would actually see that it is a good guide. People like you who constantly say rude things in the comments section are an embarrassment to this website.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Jk sarcasm
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    Thank you.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Ok i admit that this guide is the greatest guide ever and will make all begginers super successful ok im done with answering all the stupid comments that reply to my comments which bug me about bugging the flipmstr2
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    the bases are pretty crappy since my friends made it and the guides are great
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    You got better comments because assholes like you went on this guide and bugged flipmstr2 relentlessly about some stupid collector stuff. Just because people commented on your stuff better doesn't mean you are better. I read your guides, and even looked at your base, and they all are pretty crappy.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Well looks like i got much better comments on boththe archillion attack strategy and how to reach the top well i guess i am better then
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    Darkwarrior stop posting irrelevant stuff you posted the same thing on the last 3 guides I looked up.
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    I think that in the beginning you can get away with low collectors, but around town hall 7 I found attacking became much more complicated. Then you probably should upgrade them to the max, because you just get destroyed each day, regardless of how much loot you get from collectors. And since attacking is harder, its harder to get good loot to make up for low collectors. I disagree with being rude towards the creator of this guide, and some people on here were appalling. I sort of agree and disagree with the collector thing, it works to have them low at first but as I said above it doesn't work as you go on.
    Posted 41 months ago

    The Possums

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    I really have to disagree with the idea of not maxing out collectors. As a th7 with lvl 10 collectors, I make like 200 k resources everyday just by tapping for 20 secs. Also, keeping them close to your defenses ruduces the noobs rushing at you. The most anyone has taken from collectors is 50k, which is nothing.
    Posted 41 months ago

    IronicNinja

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    We all got our opinions. We don't like the creator because this makes no sense. We don't want beginners to fail miserably at this game. And if I am an ass, sorry.

    @Cryos123 You are absolutely right. lol "archillion" was actually just Balloonion Archers.
    Posted 41 months ago

    Cryos123

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    Seriously mehranJ you should just stop it, this guide isn't the best for sure but I bet you're not better at making guides either.
    Posted 41 months ago

    Doomfarer

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    Wow some seriously rude people in here. Nice guide flipmstr2 I'll be implementing it as i go.
    Posted 41 months ago

    Phantom88

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    I actually really like town hall rushers because they usually quit the game, then their storages fill up which I can then take for an easy raid!
    Posted 41 months ago

    akels

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    on rereading ur guide i do agree with many of your points although the 0 balance thing still throws me off otherwise i agree dont listen to some of the bs these guys r giving u they just have to be haters :)
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    I get your point mehranJ and it makes sense, but I think you bugged the creator of this guide long enough. Just let it rest man!
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

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    Well thats what you think, and no sir it is bad for the opponent that you have low collectors and bad for you, btw all your collectors do not fill during a night so there is no point in not upgrading them
    Posted 41 months ago

    ~[Steven 82]~

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    IronicNinja and mehranJ you guys are such assholes. I thought he raised many good points, and yes I do skip guys with level 5 and 6 collectors. I am so sorry to the creator that you had to deal with this bullshit.
    Posted 41 months ago

    bont

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    if somehow i knew about this website for salvaging ideas(your guide, which if this guide was made earlier) and if i was geek enough and smarter to read FAQs/ guides like this one before i'll ever play any game(CoC) i could have been wiser not to rush my TH, expend more than 100gems early in instead keeping it for the 4th builder and instead to Barracks i rushed-upgrade all my collectors to level F***ing 10!!! though i could not agree keeping 0 balance when offline.

    AAAaannndd it would have been a smooth ride. -_-'
    Posted 41 months ago

    IronicNinja

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    Dumb people dont come on the website. So why make a noob guide? Just kidding. We are just giving you pointers but you are taking it so seriously ): #WeLUV#
    Posted 41 months ago

    flipmstr2

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    19/06/14
    LOL, I find it rather humorous that even though I haven't posted anything in a week, you guys are simply wasting time with your frivolous catch phrases and telling me to stop arguing my point. It appears that the last week the arguing has been strictly one sided. Oh, a #Hash tag campaign! Like that stopped school shootings, or stopped girls from getting kidnapped. I can assure you, it will not keep me from my opinion. Just like nothing I say will change your mind. You see, unlike some small minded people I am willing to change my mind.

    I got to thinking, perhaps you don't like this guide due to the fact it could impede your farming raids. That must be it, since you won't answer questions like: "have you ever bypassed a base due to low mines or resources?" Funny how you guys ignored to answer that. I personally have passed at least a dozen TH7 and a few TH8 that had level 6 or 7 mines.
    I love how when I asked to have some things clarified, such as the experience thing that you called into question, the so-called experts didn't even try to enlighten us.

    I admit there are some flaws in how I said some things, such as the zero balance thing, I agree if you are saving up for something you wouldn't want to zero balance out, but rather push hard to try and get to your objective as quickly as possible thus returning to a zero balance, if you are pushing for an elixer target, you will invariably procure gold. If you are not saving for anything specific with gold then dump into walls. Yes, I did not clearly state that intent.

    I was wrong in how I portrayed the time to the top I wasn't implying the number one position just maybe TH 10. Since I haven't played but up into TH6, I could be way off in the assessment. Also since I haven't played past TH6 the theory of the collectors could go out the window. But as
    Peter the Builder noted, at the lower levels you really do not need collectors.

    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    19/06/14
    Your body is big, your brain is small. This guide is bs so give up.


    Just admit that the guide is bs thats all i have to say for myself
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    19/06/14
    Ok
    Posted 41 months ago

    IronicNinja

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    475
    here
    19/06/14
    @flipmstr2. This guide is just BS. Stop arguing against us when we are right. You admit it, I will stop. #noobGuide #noflipmstr2 #flipmstr2BS. Now MehranJ. Just please stop posting SOOOOOO many comments insulting him. make hem into one big comment instead of double posting. #2
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    18/06/14
    Yeah now people are getting to their minds and realizing what bs this is #noflipmstr2
    Posted 41 months ago

    Fay6211

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    270
    here
    18/06/14
    I'm not a beginner I'm a level 84 and I know this dont make sense
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    18/06/14
    The guide is just bs
    Posted 41 months ago

    Peter the Builder

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    1,546
    here
    18/06/14
    So much hate in here! This guide is actually not bad at all, but it maybe doesn't make sense to beginners. But for someone starting the second account with the goal of progressing as fast as possible, the advices are perfectly sound. I have one account at TH10 lv109 and one TH9 lv94, so i do know what I'm talking about. I started the second account in september when it came out on droid in certain countries. I maxed everything on every level up to TH7 but only had one mine and one pump at lv1. If you know how to raid and can spend a couple of hours per day, it is easy to have 5 builders busy all the way to TH7. At the end of TH7 things starts to take longer times (teslas) and while upgrading to TH8 I started building mines and pumps. Before then they are actually a waste of builder time. At the end of TH8 while upgrading to TH9 they were maxed (along with everything else except walls and BK).
    First upgrades are always the offensive stuff, is a very important advice.
    The advice of trying to have 0 loot in storage when you log off is pretty stupid though, especially when upgrades start to cost more than you can get from a couple of raids. That is why you upgrade your defences: to be able to defend the loot.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    18/06/14
    I get around 2m gold and 2m lxr a day from rading and 270k of each from mines and collectors so they can be huge support #noflipmstr2
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    17/06/14
    Yeah dude give up #noflipmstr2
    Posted 41 months ago

    akels

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    5
    here
    17/06/14
    this guide makes no sense ur elixer collecters and goldmine should be lvl 10 that 144k is useful its free money why not take it? Besides ppl can only loot so much of your resources so going back to 0 gold is terrible because u have to rebuild money every time
    Posted 41 months ago

    Fay6211

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    270
    here
    17/06/14
    Wow what a waste of time. this guide is bs. You said it takes 6 months to a year to 'see the top'? Whats that even supposed t mean. Obviously the top players in the world have been playing for years. WTF the summary at the bottom makes no sense except the not to rush the TH is basically the only thing that makes sense in this entire guide. Whatever this guide is bad, i dont even know how they published this.
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    17/06/14
    Not the right place
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    17/06/14
    WhT
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    17/06/14
    Yeah we have a campaign #niflipmstr
    Posted 41 months ago

    Dethcard

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    1
    16/06/14
    30k is nothing. If youre patient and ballsy enough you can find TH6 and Low Lv TH7 bases with over 200k in both Gold and Lix. And Im at a TH5. and even with full 7 and 8 collectors. The Attacker has never took more than 50- 75K from me. That is crappy advice
    Posted 41 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    16/06/14
    Yeah flipmstr, just admit it
    Posted 41 months ago

    GodOfSwag

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    526
    here
    16/06/14
    Wow you are STILL going on. Dude, this is a guide about what NOT to do when you are an Early Clasher, everyone especially IronicNinja and MehranJ have have said why you shouldn't do it! So, this is a crappy guide, not put together well, can't you just put that in your mind and accept it instead of blabbering on and on about pathetic excuses?! Just quit it...
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    14/06/14
    Well i can write sdushfsuhfdhfeufehfeufhefuhefdehufdufhdufheifheufhefihefuemfefnushdeifjeufyeufheudhwdejfiedeyfojefhwugdehfkienfgefjefieihufgeiihfkehfigefiheifheifheifheufheiifheifheifhekrhwidhekrheidhwirneidhwihrkjriehdiejriehdiehrkhedig and call it a guide and wanna get a good rationg, no sir
    Posted 42 months ago

    Redemption

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    180
    13/06/14
    At least @flipmstr2 made a guide and always remember that there is a real person that has feelings behind those words. Maybe you all are being a bit too harsh, sure it isn't the best guide but at least he/she gave it a go.
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    13/06/14
    correct derp
    Posted 42 months ago

    DerpBoy1234

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    here
    13/06/14
    #WorstGuideEVAR
    Posted 42 months ago

    flipmstr2

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    116
    13/06/14
    @ ironicninja. Perhaps you can explain the experience level to us first time players? What is good. What is bad and. Why?
    I never claimed my donations where a large amount. Only inferred my exp was higher than the norm for my town hall level. I figured since I'm not a beast, the only other thing i could attribute is the donations were the cause of the elevated exp level. I am assuming it is elevated. I see that I am on par with some built up townhall 6's. so if my exp level is somehow wrong, can you explain why and what others can do to avoid the same mistake?
    I have been playing just under a month. What prompted this train of thought. Was I started to go on raids with the thought of income as opposed to trophies. I ran across some level 8 town halls with level 6 collectors. I deemed them unworthy of attack and moved on. I was sitting at on level 8 and 9 collectors when I made this discovery and thought that it was a nice tactic and wish I had been able to know about it before I upped mine. I made this guide based upon the slightly different bits of knowledge that I gleaned from playing that I didn't see elsewhere. That fact that it wasn't published elsewhere may be testament of its effectiveness. Even if no one uses this train of thought as a result of this guide is fine by me. I like the alternative reasons given on why it is wrong.

    What I don't care much for is the repeated accusations that I am being a hypocrite. I know I am, but it is only because I can't change the past ( can't sell down the levels) so I figured I would maximize from the fact I didn't get a chance to implement this strategy.

    Keep in mind I am speaking from a perspective of a first time newer player. That I am at Town hall level 5. I have no way of knowing what pitfalls await using any sort of guide as I progress from one level to the next.

    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    13/06/14
    Exactly how were these posts related
    Posted 42 months ago

    csu

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    13/06/14
    Trophies mean nothing too me either. Usually i attack and get 200k loot spending about 70 barbarians
    Posted 42 months ago

    csu

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    13/06/14
    @IronicNinja well i am in the 1400-1600 trophy range. What im saying is that i occasionally do spend up to that amount but then i find guys with 350k available gold all in their collectors. Most of the time i spend 10-30k gold looking for an attack, but usually the collectors and mines fund that. My main point is to make the biggest profit possible, and im not going to attack a guy with 50k gold even if its my first base ive looked at. Plus with 580 gold per base the cost racks up pretty quickly
    Posted 42 months ago

    IronicNinja

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    475
    here
    13/06/14
    haha donations: 2615
    (all 38 levels come from collectors xD)
    Ya wouldn't? Ya right. Then why are you still upgrading them smart one? If you would like to keep them at lvl 6, then wouldnt you already stop upgrading them.
    2615 EXP = Would be at lv10 if you started at lvl 1.
    My donations: 23000 = Would put me just behind lv31.
    So what do you mean your donations have got you all your levels? And how long have you been playing this?
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    13/06/14
    No im not
    Posted 42 months ago

    Co0lestcat

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    24
    here
    13/06/14
    Oops i mean you're
    Posted 42 months ago

    Co0lestcat

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    24
    here
    13/06/14
    Ok guys i think we can get over it your being a bit mean to flipmster2
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    13/06/14
    Yeah thats what im saying
    Posted 42 months ago

    c0rvus

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    17
    here
    13/06/14
    Worst Guide Ever bro. You are not Helping.
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    Hey flipmstr didnt see the older comment you made and i have to say i only make that from my collectors in a nights sleep and 1m a day from attacking which makes 1270k and with the loot bonus you can get your wiz tower ro level four but not without the help of the mines and collectors so they are very useful and you cannot survive with them if they are at low level and in that case they woukd be like barrcks, unlootable and useless for gaining loot, and spread and full mines can add you thirty trophies every time you get attacked by a farmer, and my name is mehranJ and not mehran?.
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    And 2821 donates is nothing
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    Just admit that you are a weak low leveled player with a rubbish guide in which tells people to not do what the creator of the guide does, and that is what all these comments are for, who ever thats with me say YES
    Posted 42 months ago

    flipmstr2

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    116
    12/06/14
    Jeeze people, I clearly state that if I had to do it over again, I would not make collectors past level 6.
    At least not for a long while. Did you not read that?
    I raid all day? I spend about a total of 2 hours spread throughout the day doing raids. How is that not a life?

    @ IronicNinja, question about my level? how is that bad? Is it too high or too low? A lot of it came from donations. Also your comments about not having a life makes no sense. 20-30k is nothing? what does that mean?

    @ all others. I realize the guide is hypocritical, but I clearly have outlined that I screwed up and would like others to learn form it.


    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    Hey guide creator you are upgrading your collector right now you know so dont want people to not do what tou do
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    You talking about me?
    Posted 42 months ago

    IronicNinja

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    475
    here
    12/06/14
    And I'm looking at your base. Almost maxed collectors for th5. Ad not in a very active clan. And with 11 people. No wonder you say "It doesn't matter about the size. It matters about the activity". And guys no wonder you think he's wrong. He's a th5 sitting at lv38 almost at th6. Don't read guides made by a first time player ):
    Posted 42 months ago

    IronicNinja

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    475
    here
    12/06/14
    I understand this guide is for noobs. But you say it begins at town hall 5 and ends at the end. So your comment to me makes no sense. Plus there is a unanimous vote that 20-30k loot a day is nothing and your wrong about collectors. You must not have a life because you raid all day. Or you must not be active and take your loot from the collectors.
    Posted 42 months ago

    ShadowDefuse

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    9
    here
    12/06/14
    You spend 100k looking for a base @csu?? What trophy league are you in? I find the best loot from 1700-2100.
    Posted 42 months ago

    csu

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    12/06/14
    MehranJ thats what i did it was totally worth it! 150/150 stars on campaign map!
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    And in the shield time go get those gobs
    Posted 42 months ago

    csu

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    12/06/14
    Yea shadow defuse thats what i said it works 95% of the time
    Posted 42 months ago

    ShadowDefuse

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    9
    here
    12/06/14
    Any ways if you're trying to save loot just put your town hall outside and almost instantly you get a free shield at the cost of a few easily earned trophies
    Posted 42 months ago

    ShadowDefuse

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    9
    here
    12/06/14
    Didn't post my whole comment.. wtf >:(
    Posted 42 months ago

    ShadowDefuse

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    9
    here
    12/06/14
    I guess i can agree with you on keeping the one builder free to use on walls at low levels, but at town hall 9 like I am, It's best to keep them all busy and just save for something else while they busy. As for the loot
    Posted 42 months ago

    csu

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    20
    12/06/14
    You're kidding. Dont upgrade your collectors and mines? Why on earth wouldnt you do that?! As ironic ninja stated, weaker players will look at you, say "OMG 300k LOOT AVAILABLE!!" Attack, maybe get 50k from my collectors and mines, but get pummeled by my defenses. Oh, and its called farming. People attack your town hall and dont go for the loot! Rarely do i get raided where i actually lose a considerable amount of loot. And so what if they take my collector and mine loot? Normally this is right after i go to bed, so there is barely anything in them, and then they pump and mine all night long without being bothered, and when I come on, all i dont is click them and boom! 200-250k gold and elixer, maybe more from them. But if they were at lvl 6 as you say, I come on and get about 1/4 of that loot. And I still wouldve been attacked on my town hall and lost nothing. What you want to do is max your collectors and mines quickly! And why would i want a zero balance of loot when I go to bed when my collectors give me 30k elixer/gold. That gives me barely anything to attack with. I usually spend over 100k gold looking for an attack, and i rely on my collectors to supply me with that loot. And really? Trophies dont matter! They are so overrated! How often do you see a good clan saying you need to be so and so trophies? Never! Its you need to be level 60, or level 50, etc. This guide unfortunately did nothing for me but waste 10 minutes
    Posted 42 months ago

    flipmstr2

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    116
    12/06/14
    I am not trying to change anyone's mind, You play how you wish and I to care if I change it or not. I will defend my thought process, but I am also open to change. I appreciate the dialogue and hope some people find this guide helpful.


    @ Mehran? only 270k a day? I get that in an hour or two. I am merely stating that you should not rely on your collectors for income, rely on other peoples collectors :)

    @ POT$ I do agree that upgraded collectors do offer a bigger speed bump. Using that point of view does change what you use the collectors for, income or defense. I actually am upping from 8 to 9 since the damage is already done for the extra HPs. But if I could sell and do over, I would keep at level 6.

    @ Co0lestcat Yeah that is why I am not stressing the trophy thing, there are a ton of other way to increase your trophy count. I figure as long as you maintain a certain color league you should be fine. I figure Silver is good at this level.

    @Bussy9 Good point, but an "empty" looking level 10 collector usually is holdig about as much as a "full" level 5 or 6 collector. If you have the same mentality of passing an empty levle 10 then the same should hold true for a full level 5.

    @ Redemption I agree, a higher trophy range does help with raiding higher income bases. However yo will not be able to usually beat a TH7 base if you are a maxed out TH5. So you should expect to lose. Sorry if I made it sound that trophies were completely irrelevant, I just wanted brand new players to realize that a high count of trophies doesn't matter as much as income. On the same note too low of a trophy count can limit you to 3- 5k bases which doesn't help much at all.

    @ Divicell I must disagree, Since I erroneously upped my collectors to level 8 I have decided to up them the rest of the way just for the HP (almost all Lvl 9 now). So the past 2 days I have gone on a bit of a spree, I have been attack a couple of times (each getting a shield) Total loss ~200k Gold and 100k ELixer. I have made over 1 mill in both ELixer and gold in that time. I sit with max gold and 20% elixer storage full. A position I hate but TH5 is being upped. I am research level 4 lightning already, and everything is maxed (except for the collectors) I entered TH5 less than 3 weeks ago. My hopes are to immediately up barracks for a healer start in on the new buildings and get them upgraded. Once barracks is done, work on upping camps then upgrade troops, spells, then walls, finally other barracks. then when bored and I am maxed and I am trying to go to TH7 I might up some more collectors :)

    @retank that is exactly what I did. When you have everything squared away, I save one builder just for walls and clearing obstacles to drop the resource storage as close to 0 as I can get before reiring for the evening.

    @ GodOfSwag and all others I am not advocating the rush of the TH I am advocating for the rush of your town.
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    Yeah dude bad guide
    Posted 42 months ago

    bussy9

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    164
    here
    12/06/14
    Ou would upgrade collectors most people just pay attention to fullness not level and it takes a lot longer for a high level collectors to get full so it wil actually discourage people from attacking
    Posted 42 months ago

    Co0lestcat

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    24
    here
    12/06/14
    Nothing to do with this but if u leave your high levelled collectors and mines out and leave them for a few days they will fill up and ppl will raid them then leave the match and u can get a bunch of cups from a lot of ppl i did this and i moved from gold 3 to gold 1 after my week end away
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
    here
    12/06/14
    Ive got a weaker account named no bødy in the clan named iwarrior 2.0 and ibe maxed out every single defense at th5 including the walls by just collecting from mines, this guide does not work wt all and my stronger account named mehranJ in the same clan is getting 270k every day i wake up, so plz do bot tell people to not step forward.
    Posted 42 months ago

    POT $

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    25
    11/06/14
    Take that builder you save and upgrade some collectors lol
    Posted 42 months ago

    POT $

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    25
    11/06/14
    Upgrade the collectors...if you war alot. Why not get the extra hit points. And btw if you raid alot your collectors are nust a bonus. I thought the same way till I got larger...and smarter. Then I upgraded my pumps and mines
    Posted 42 months ago

    Redemption

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    180
    11/06/14
    Some things in this guide I don't agree with, such as the collectors/mines, how much loot to look for and trophy range. Your trophy range is very important, a good trophy range can give you a lot of easy loot raids. Sometimes it is good to be higher in trophies as a lower Town Hall, if you are a Town Hall 7 in Master League, you will get attacked by the majority of Town Hall 10s up there and only lose a little bit of loot, due to loot penalties for higher Town Hall levels. The other two things have already been addressed multiple times so I will not go into them. Overall, this is a great guide for beginners. Thank you for taking the time to write a guide like this for lower levels, I have not seen a guide like this before. Good job! :)
    Posted 42 months ago

    GodOfSwag

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    526
    here
    11/06/14
    I didn't mention anything about raiding, but if you insist... If you have maxed out collectors at your TH Lvl it would give you that little bit extra for an upgrade after a raid. If you raid a lot and have maxed-out collectors, you get a lot of loot and then you don't have to rush your TH! This guide is saying everything NOT to do as a beginner... Don't like this guide....
    Posted 42 months ago

    msalomon1228

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    123
    here
    11/06/14
    Good guide but your are wrong about the collectors. Higher lvl collectors only makes you a target if you dont collect. It will overall give you more loot
    Posted 42 months ago

    Divicell

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    100
    here
    11/06/14
    Wonderful guide but I noticed something. You actually don't want to level up your th quickly. You also actually want higher tier collectors, because they produce resources faster. If you get raided by a a person and they take your resources from the collectors, it may take a day to replace something that can be replaced in 10 hours. I agree you can farm off other mines, but seriously if you want upgrades for your offensive troops, it's a lot easier having high tier mines.
    Posted 42 months ago

    Retank

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    6
    here
    11/06/14
    Good Guide thanks as someone already stated you should always keep your builders active though. It is really easy to farm up max gold at th5 then use all the gold on your walls. I do sorta agree with you on waiting on upgrading your resource collectors though. I would exactly try not to upgrade them but at the same time. Maybe just Maybe it would be more beneficial at th5 to start your town hall upgrade when all you have left is your resource collectors to upgrade. I do not believe that would hurt you too much and it would make your town more powerful.
    Posted 42 months ago

    StickDead

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    25
    here
    11/06/14
    wow great Guide for the noobs players :D greetings
    Posted 42 months ago

    flipmstr2

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    116
    11/06/14
    Thanks all for the feed back,
    A few things I should address,
    First keep in mind this is for a TH 4-6 Not TH 10 as given by an example by IronicNinja
    Second Sorry about the repeated Reference to Extractors as opposed to collectors. I guess Pump would work as well.
    @ ShadowDefuse I clearly state : "I will harp over and over about how this guide is to raise your town as quick as possible. Do not confuse this with raising your Town Hall as quickly as possible. My school of thought is to max up your town before upgrading your TH to the next level. "
    Also
    " In Summary

    Don't rush your Town Hall. Rush your entire base. " We are in agreement on this point.
    As far as all the buildings going, I guess I failed in making that clear. I was referring to after the main upgrades. Instead of upgrading the collectors try and keep one builder available to work on walls and keep your gold near 0.

    @ IronicNinja, I stated this isn't about the maximizing trophies, and to disregard them to the extent that if you are not at X level your are doing something wrong. but rather use them as a guideline. Going on resource raids will hurt trophy count. If you you come across a TH8 sitting at the 800 trophy league with a ton of level 10 elixers that have sat a few hours it may be worth the attack and loss to get cheap resources. I do state "I figure about 200 trophies per your Town Hall level is a good guide. So for a TH 5 you should be sitting around 1000 trophies /- 100 "

    To All critiquing the absurdity of not upgrading collectors. I ask, when you are searching for an attack and you see a 20-30k base, why is it only 20-30k base? perhaps it is because lower level collectors? Or freshly collected higher level ones. After going to bed and 6 hours later your collectors will have filled up turning you from a 30k or lower base into a 50k base.

    Unfortunately a TH 5 will not be able to fend off a decent TH 7 attack no matter how good they are. If a TH7 is in your same league and they stumble across you you are toast, best way to avoid the attack is to make it as uninviting as possible.

    To all at 30k I was being conservative, I love stumbling across the 70 - 100k bases but realistically 30k seems to be the norm.
    Posted 42 months ago

    IronicNinja

    lvl 3: Teslafried Chicken
    475
    here
    11/06/14
    I find 99% of bases with 30k loot. And I don't see your point. You want me to not upgrade "extractors" (they are collectors!!!) and mines and get wiped out. I'd rather upgrade them, get loot from them and get weak players to look at my loot and say "LOOK LOOT!" They don't get from my storages and may give me a free 12 hour shield. And trophy range matters. If I am a town hall 10, you think being at the sub-200 range is good? That will happen if you don't care about trophies. And 30k loot is rubbish. I find 100k loot about 30% of the time. So why did you make this guide when it's complete rubbish? Don't make beginners fail and have to restart the game. Please take note of this super long comment.
    Posted 42 months ago

    mehranJ

    lvl 6: Giant Sideburns
    2,082
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    11/06/14
    if you are good for your league then no one will attack you even with high loot in storages and seriously bad collectors???


    rubbish guide
    Posted 42 months ago

    ShadowDefuse

    lvl 1: Loincloth
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    11/06/14
    I disagree with almost everything in this guide. First, you shouldn't rush your base at all, you should max everything completely at each town hall level. If not then you just get a bigger loot penalty for upgrading early.

    Second, not upgrading your collectors has to be one of the most absurd things I have heard yet. If you are active then the collectors will never reach half of their full capacity and it will make no difference as to if you get raided or not.

    Third, 30k each for a raid? Even at a low level you should be going for about 70 k each per raid.

    Lastly, always have all your builders going. If this is a guide to speed up getting through the game, don't you think you should use all your builders? Rather than keeping one for walls just wait till one finishes, use the gold you have on walls, then upgrade something else and raid some more while that is building.
    Posted 42 months ago

    flipmstr2

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
    116
    11/06/14
    GodOfSwag:
    First, I Appreciate your input and I thank you very much.
    Actually at low levels beginners will be around level 5 and 6 collectors. Spending the extra $ and being without the Collector is counter to the goal of letting the collector be and harvest for them.
    Also, I didn't say it would prevent an attack, simply makes the base a bit less desirable.
    So I must ask, G.O.S., have you ever skipped when you saw level 6 collectors when you were on farming runs?

    You stated "Early Clashers want loot easily and quickly". So your saying waiting several hours is quicker than 30 minutes worth of raiding?

    Thanks
    Posted 42 months ago

    Henrique Monteiro Ju

    lvl 1: Loincloth
    45
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    11/06/14
    Muito bom! Parabéns!
    Very good! Congratulations!
    Posted 42 months ago

    GodOfSwag

    lvl 4: Noobsauce Bob
    526
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    11/06/14
    Well having high levelled mines/collectors isn't a bad thing because you get loot, you shouldn't tell people to keep them on a low upgrade because you get raided all the time, even if your collectors aren't full. Early Clashers want loot easily and quickly, not a good tip...