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Advanced base design: Anti hog designs!

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  • May 20, 2014 (43 months ago)
ign: DrZtroom
Clan: The Farmers (red and yellow flame shield)

Hi builders!

Ever been flattened by hogs? If you been in clan wars you know that hog rules against anything that doesn't have multi infernos. So is there anything you can do about it? -Yes, time to build a anti hog design or a "hogring" as I call them. This guide is directed to TH8 and TH9. TH10 can certainly use same principles, but don't really have to if the inferno towers are activated (inferno fire negates healing).

The problem with hogs is that they kill all defenses very fast and are easily restored by using healing spells. To counter this we have several counter measures that all work together in a good anti hog design:
1. Insta kill: Spring traps, double giant bombs (max bombs (available at TH10) needed for max hogs (available at TH9))
2. Very fast kills: High DPS defenses (teslas, canons, xbows) and defense troops(archers, wizards and other high DPS troops in the clan castle), Archer queen, Barbarian King
3. Make the attack take long time and letting AoE defenses with low DPS have their effect (mortars and wizard towers).
4. Make the attacker waste healing spells on wrong places. Deception is very important for a successful design.

The design idea that will combine all these counter measures is the hogring design. Well, Archer Queen and Barbarian King you can pretty much forget about, a good attacker will always be able to lure them. The basics of the hogring is that you put the most valuable things you want to defend (town hall or DE storage for example) together with your long range defenses in the middle. The layer outside of the core must not contain any defenses. The next layer is the actual hogring where the defense towers are spread out in a full ring around the base with empty space in-between them to give room for traps. Outside of the hogring there can be another ring of less valuable non defense buildings.
If the clan castle is placed in the very center of the base it is possible to make it very hard to lure with single or just a few troops. If the hogger is unable to lure and take out all the CC troops before the main assault the attack is doomed. Especially in clan wars where everyone has good defense troops in CC.
My designs are always four-way symmetrical. The purpose of that is to avoid any weak spots. They usually feature funnels on all sides to lure giants into the ring and away from holes created by wall breakers. The hogring designs work really well against balloons if the balloons are deployed in one spot. Try to make your hogrings not looking like hogrings, there are some common designs that everyone will recognize directly. Try to make the layers less obvious by using the walls smart. Also try to protect your Air Defense towers by not placing them on the outer layer (but still part of the ring), otherwise your base will be very vulnerable to mass dragons and other air attacks.

Check out my designs for examples, all recent designs are hogrings for TH8 to 10.

/Peter the Builder (ign: DrZtroom, clan: The Farmers)
    Posted 24 months ago

    gemv3app

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    Posted 42 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    Dylan, it's not a bad design, but it's not particularly good against hogs. It has no hogring, no double giant bombs, and no centralized clan castle and the teslas in the center make holes in the base.
    Posted 42 months ago

    DylanE

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    Can you check my design out and let me know what you think?

    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    Please check out my designs for different examples, I have made at least 20 different hogrings for TH8-10.
    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    Ninja, yes that is a good hogring base. Problem with that one is that is common, people will recognize it as a hogring.
    Dragonwarrior, I don't think it's possible to make a hogring for TH7, but please prove me wrong.
    Posted 43 months ago

    IronicNinja

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    Woops I failed,


    You can see why this is so good if you check it out in my profile.
    Posted 43 months ago

    IronicNinja

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    31/05/14
    Try this Anti Hog!
    Posted 43 months ago

    DRAGONWARRIOR

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    30/05/14
    Show us a picture of your base i wanna sorta copy it as i have the basic lvl7 base
    Posted 43 months ago

    HomeSkillet_98

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    Interesting
    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    One trick to not make the base look like the obvious hog ring is to let defences and non-defence buildings share the same cell like this:


    Another way is to use teslas to hide that it is a full ring.
    A third way is to have fake tesla positions to make it look like the ring will break, like this:
    Posted 43 months ago

    baronmunchausen

    lvl 2: Hog "Rider"
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    27/05/14
    Sure, Peter, for CW put CC inside. The name is "Plan X". I will soon consider adjusting it. Your idea that the hog buffer should not look like one seems very reasonable. I will try to move the fence around to let big bombs in...
    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    Don't know, cause I can't see it!
    Posted 43 months ago

    Demon of Doom

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    27/05/14
    Sweet guide Peter! Also, do you think this base is anti hog?
    Posted 43 months ago

    KIKZ

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    Join My Clan "TheDangerArmy" For Amazing Donations......
    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    baron, that design will work. There are finesses like double giant bombs that it misses, otherwise its all good. Clan wars version with clan castle in the center?
    Posted 43 months ago

    baronmunchausen

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    Here's my anti-hog base.

    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    The name of that base is: DrZtroom th8 Clan Wars mode
    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    We had a new th8 (th7 defenses) guy in my clan that had 3 defense wins, one 1-star, and one 2-star in the last clan war. Most of the attacks were with hogs and th9 troops. He was using this design:

    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    Thanks KurtieG! The danger of "GoWiXX" strategies is the wall breakers, they usually bring a lot of them. Without the WBs the golems will walk around the base just like giants. I have tested hogring designs up to Master II.
    Posted 43 months ago

    KurtieG

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    22/05/14
    Good guide, i wrote a similar one a while ago. Hog rings or as i call them "buffer layer" layouts help to stop a good 90% of hog attacks. They also, as peter said, work well against balloon/minion and giant attacks. The only thing they fail on is any version of the GoWi, which fortunately you dont come across until crystal 1-2.
    Posted 43 months ago

    Peter the Builder

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    The hog ring works well against giants as well. The problem is wall breakers together with giants. An attack with giants, enough amount of wall breakers, and high level heroes will wreck a hog ring design if deployed right. But you know, that's the beauty of this game. You can't make a design that has optimal defense against everything.
    Posted 43 months ago

    mehranJ

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    some guy attacked my weak account in silver III with hogs and lots of wizards and two balloons, the battle lasted an epic 13 seconds. GOOD TRAP PLACEMENT :)
    Posted 43 months ago

    Co0lestcat

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    22/05/14
    Dont attack me with hogs plz
    Posted 43 months ago

    CBD

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    21/05/14
    Problem with an anti hog base...giants wreck shop
    Posted 43 months ago

    GodOfSwag

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    21/05/14
    Well I have to disagree with you IronicNinja, because this guide is very helpful to players.
    Posted 43 months ago

    IronicNinja

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    .....Doesn't help in making a anti-hog base.....AND DON'T ADVERTISE YOUR CLANS IN GUIDES ):